[Feb 14] History of Magic - 5th Years

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[Feb 14] History of Magic - 5th Years

on March 30, 2016, 05:53:39 PM

 Professor Butler sighed as he sipped his tea and waited for the 5th years to arrive. The circumstances for meeting a new class were about as ghastly as they could be. Nevertheless he had a job to do and he would have to do it.  With the death of Professor Smythe the students had fallen behind in their lessons and he would have to press on in order to prepare them for their OWLs. He had intended to set them a test to see what they had learned so far but he had decided to set it aside given the abductions. The pupils had enough to worry them at present  without adding to their woes.

 He looked over the classroom. He had done very little to change it since arriving. There was a new photograph of a gathering of historians at the museum that he and Bill had attended and a variety of new books were on the already amply filled shelves. He would personalise it later if he felt like it.

 "Welcome, my name is Professor Butler, the new Professor for History of Magic as you have no doubt guessed. I understand that Professor Smythe  had gone over goblin rebellions with you in good detail. Since Bill's tragic death though you have had no regular teacher so we are a little behind. It is nothing that we cannot catch up on in a month or two so do not worry about preparation for your OWls. It does mean however that we must focus our attention despite how difficult that is in the current circumstances."

 He sighed again,

 "As hard as it is we will turn our attention now to centaurs. Centaurs as you no doubt are aware are a proud and intelligent race skilled in archery, concealment, herbology and magical healing. It is astronomy and divination however that they are most renowned for though their revelations tend to be more abstract than human seers.  They tend to keep themselves to themselves and avoid contact with both muggles and wizards. Thus there is not the same history of conflicts and other interactions between wizards and centaurs as there is between wizards and goblins.

 That is not to say however that there have been no such incidents. The earliest  conflict between man and centaur that we know of was in ancient Greece. Muggle myth records that centaurs fought with a people in Thessaly called the Lapiths. The myth records that the war was caused by the centaurs' attempt to carry off the lady Hippodamia and the rest of the Lapith women on the day of Hippodamia's marriage to Pirithous, king of the Lapithae. This is of course ardent nonsense. In the entirety of recorded history there has never been any recorded instance of a centaur being interested in a human woman or for that matter in a human man. The only one 'romantic' occasion that I know of if you could call it that was in France in 1698 when Philippe Bernard or 'Bernard of the Burgundy' propositioned the centaur Iranse and got two hoof prints in his head for his troubles. His successful defence when tried was that he was so drunk he thought that he was asking out the witch Jeanne Martin who Iranse vaguely resembled from the waist up. This defence did not help Philippe much though as Jeanne's father Pierre had forbidden him from going out with his daughter and challenged him to a duel.  Philippe turned up to the duel drunk, dropped his wand and then got transfigured into an ass by the outraged Pierre.

 Anyway returning to ancient Greece, the likely real reason for the conflict between the centaurs and the Lapiths was human  incursions into territory the centaurs deemed their own which has long been the main source of strife between centaur and man. There is an ancient  record from the wizard Polybius from that time. The record is incomplete but it suggests that the war started after the Lapiths sought more land.

 We have other early records of centaurs from ancient Greece. They were centaur herds mentioned in Magnesia and Mount Pelion in Thessaly, the Foloi oak forest in Elis, and the Malean peninsula in southern Laconia. Another tribe of centaurs was said to have lived on Cyprus  and there were also the Lamian Pheres of the Lamos river.

 Though there are protected reserves where centaurs live today they no longer hold any significant dominions. It is not well recorded why the centaur race declined in comparison to humanity in classical times. Their magic though significant is far more limited than the power of witches and wizards. While there are some instances of centaurs defeating muggles whenever they have  faced wizards in significant numbers they have nearly always been defeated. Such instances though are uncommon and cannot have been more than rare occurrences in ancient days given the smaller magical population then. It may have been  partially due to humanity's development of arms and armour which gradually overcame the centaurs' advantages in strength and mobility but this cannot have been the sole factor given the slow pace of human military development in the era. It may have been to do with centaurs'  isolationist tendencies. They tended not to press attacks or conquer lands they did not already own. I suspect however that it was simply due to numbers. The centaurs were never able or willing to keep up with humanity's growing population. While one centaur could easily defeat one man, he would struggle to defeat three men and by the time he had to fight ten men the era of centaurs holding significant territories was at an end.

 As the centuries progressed the centaurs retreated to the deep forests where they still reside. They passed from muggle history into legend though there are still some records if you look hard enough. For example in this country Pictish carvings depicting centaurs have been found in Scotland from the 8th and 9th centuries AD. There are certainly recorded instances in wizarding history though of conflicts between centaurs and men whenever the centaurs last redoubts were threatened by human expansion. Can you think of any?"
 


 

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Reply #1 on March 31, 2016, 12:56:52 PM

It was the first lesson of Monday, and for Ambrose Pepper and his lack of elective studies, the only lesson of Monday morning. Which was good, because he spent the next two lessons working on homework before Care of Magical Creatures (his favourite) after lunch before rounding the day off with one of his least favourites, Defence.

Ambrose wasn’t a particularly high achiever in history, not for the want of trying. It involved no wandwork, so was generally a safer lesson, and his family took it very seriously. If Ambrose were to continue his studies at Hogwarts the following year, his father (also a governor) would expect him to continue it as per the Pepper tradition. Odds on were that Ambrose completed his OWLs (completed being perhaps an optimistic word) and took up an apprenticeship.

This Monday morning was unsettling for two reasons. The largest and most prominent was the lack of several classmates due to their abduction. One of the students was Juni, Ambrose’s girlfriend since the start of the calendar year. He was more than a little concerned but couldn’t do much about it himself, only get frustrated at the lack of news.

The second reason was the chap to replace Professor Smythe had arrived. Timing Ambrose couldn’t help but think and feel a bit sorry for Professor Butler. At least the wizard acknowledged the circumstances. He had Ambrose’s respect for that, and as such his attention, which was lucky as Professor Butler began a lecture on centaurs. Ambrose quickly scrabbled his quill and ink to take notes.

Centaur conflicts
ancient greece
fessaly lapids(?)


Never one to keep up with notes owing to slow quill work, Ambrose glanced left and right at his classmates and hoped he could duplicate theirs later.

”… There are certainly recorded instances in wizarding history though of conflicts between centaurs and men whenever the centaurs last redoubts were threatened by human expansion. Can you think of any?”

Perhaps surprisingly, Ambrose’s hand went up first.
“Professor, Ambrose Pepper Sir. What’s a ‘redoubt’?”

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Reply #2 on April 02, 2016, 04:58:13 PM

It was an odd day. It felt like the entire castle was holding their breaths and waiting. Tension had run high since the weekend disaster at Hogsmeade. Those poor student who had disappeared. Who would take a bunch of students? What was the purpose? Ransome? But it appeared random. Any child could have taken the candy. She'd been heading to the sweet shop herself. If she hadn't stopped at the quill shop first, she might have been one of the students who vanished. It was a scary thought and it unnerved Olivia, so she shoved it away. She'd also feared that classes would be canceled. She'd sighed in relief when they weren't. She wanted the work, besides the new history professor started that day.

Olivia slipped into the classroom eye the place for changes. Nothing. It was drab as before. The man that stood in front of them was stoic. And old, at least to her. She hoped he could make history interesting. One of the things she disliked about the class was how some teachers assumed that students knew about events. She was muggleborn and no clue about things that were ingrained in magical born students. She didn't like people who assumed that someone knew everything and she found herself frowning at the man as he told them that he was sure they were aware about all these skills and attributes that the creatures had. She hadn't known they were good at magical healing and herbology. Maybe it was learned in care of magical creatures but it had been a while since centaurs were covered.

Olivia was not impressed with the professor. She wondered if he liked the sound of his own voice? He seemed to drone on and on about how muggles lied about centaurs taking women because they didn't like humans and how humans took their lands. It was a sad thing. No one should take another's land but like was not fair. It was down right dirty and the weaker man lost.  Her quill scratched against her parchment as she took notes. She longed for the smoothness of pens. The quill made nice letters but it was messy and time consuming.  When the professor asked a question Olivia just looked around the room, wondering if anyone would answer. Silence. It was a staring contest students verse professor. Ambrose broke the silence with a question.  Olivia smiled wryly, good old pepper asking the question everyone wanted to know.

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Reply #3 on April 16, 2016, 06:38:58 PM

Llywelyn was excited as always when History of Magic time rolled around. This lesson was about Centaurs, a subject that he had very little experienced with, and frankly didn't care a whole lot about. He watched this new Professor with great interest drinking in the presence he gave off at the front of the room. He sensed they were kindred spirits, although he always thought that when ever he had a teacher that taught history. Professor Butler looked to have some similar traits that Llywelyn shared. He seemed knowledgeable, which was a good thing, and appeared to have a spartan sense of decoration, which he also shared.

He was always curious about Wizards views of Muggle history, and having been to a Muggle school before, leaving for Hogwarts, and studying history on his own, left him with information and opinions that differed from the history taught by some magical professors.

Even though he had no real interest in Centaurs or why their population declined, Llywelyn happily kept scratching notes into his parchment, drinking in every word Professor Butler spoke. He tried desperately hard to push the fact that it was Valentine's Day out of his mind. He always felt more lonely than usual on Valentine's Day
Last Edit: April 16, 2016, 11:56:14 PM by Llywelyn Merrick

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Reply #4 on April 21, 2016, 02:23:35 PM

Today was Valentines' Day but it certainly didn't feel like it. On any other year Ayla would have been dressed to the nines, hair and makeup done, nails with little hearts and matching jewelry. Today though, well there was an air about the castle. While everyone waiting for news about the abducted students it felt like so many were already mourning them and Ayla didn't want to disrespect that. So for the first time since attending Hogwarts Ayla was dressed like it was just another Monday morning.

She took a seat next to Ambrose, a seat that mostly had been occupied by Juni this year. With the Ravenclaw's absence she felt like she should be offering some moral support. Though other than her presence and a few sweets hidden in her bag there wasn't much she had to offer. She didn't really know Juni that well, or too many from their year. She had always been closer to the older students in their house and aside from Winnie and some of the other Fifth year Hufflepuffs Ayla was fairly distanced from her own year (all completely her own fault but she didn't like to think about that)

As the new Professor started to talk her hand followed through with notes, writing down all the most important aspects of what he was speaking about. She had actually liked Centaurs but being a halfblood raised muggle she had a rather romanticised view of them. She had still yet to meet one in the Wizarding World but she had learned early on that what she thought of Centaurs was very far from the truth. She moved her parchment when Ambrose looked around so he could see her notes, she was more than happy to share, that is if he could read her rather floaty and kittenish writing. 

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Reply #5 on May 29, 2016, 11:29:43 AM

 The Professor briefly considered explaining the precise military applications of the word but decided against it. It was not a lecture on military history. He replied amiably,

 "A redoubt Mr Pepper is a place of retreat  and defence. In this context really anywhere centaurs can still be found would be relevant. A simpler way of putting it would be does anyone know of any other hostile interactions between men and centaurs?"

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Reply #6 on June 08, 2016, 03:24:54 PM

Ayla slid her notes over for Ambrose to review after he posed the question. Thankfully Professor Butler was not unkind and obliged Ambrose an explanation.

”A redoubt, Mr Pepper, is a place of retreat and defence.” The Gryffindor’s mouth formed a quiet ‘oh’. ”In this context really anywhere centaurs can still be found would be relevant.  A simpler way of putting it would be does anyone know of any other hostile interactions between men and centaurs?”

“Like the Hogwarts forest, Sir?” Ambrose queried with respect to the ‘place of retreat’. “I mean, place.” He added. “I know they didn’t like being classed as Beings, Sir.  Wanted to be beasts ‘cause of the vampires.”  The Department for Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures had become a specialist subject for Ambrose, who was applying for an apprenticeship.

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Reply #7 on June 08, 2016, 05:26:30 PM

"Very good Mr Pepper, nine points to Gryffindor. The Forbidden Forest is indeed home to a herd of centaurs. Other notable forests in Europe that have centaur herds include the Black Forest, the Foręt de Retz in France and the Gemenc in Hungary.

 You are quite correct also that the centaurs objected to being classed along with vampires. Both they and the merpeople refused being status and are classified as beasts. The attempt to subdivide magical creatures into beasts and beings has long proved a difficult one. The first to try was the Chief of the Wizards' Council, Burdock Muldoon, in the fourteenth century. He tried to define beings as any members of the magical community that walked on two legs. The goblins however proved this nonsensical by bringing trolls, diricawls and every other biped and the talks collapsed when the trolls went on a rampage. His successor Elfrida Clagg made a further attempt using the definition of those that could speak a human tongue. This also failed as it included trolls while excluding merpeople. The centaurs refused to take part in support of the merpeople and the ghosts felt slighted as they felt the needs of the dead were being ignored.

 Ghosts are now defined as spirits of course. The current definition of a being comes form Minister of Magic Grogan Stump in 1811. Does anyone know it?"

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Reply #8 on June 09, 2016, 04:30:10 PM

Ettie had filed in right behind Josiah Whifferdill and grabbed a seat near Winnie. Everything felt so strange, so many faces missing. Ravenclaw tower felt like a tomb. She'd hardly slept in the nights since the kidnappings. It struck her as very strange the way everything felt so much bigger with just one person missing from the Ravenclaw 5th year dorms. You wouldn't think it would make much of a difference but her absence was felt painfully - at least painfully for Ettie.

Still, the sad fact was that life had to carry on and that meant History of Magic had to continue. At least they had a proper professor now. Nearly Headless Nick had regaled them with stories of the castle and his own "bravery" that she had not been entirely sure were remotely fact based. So Professor Butler was a grand improvement on that front, and also they were done talking about Goblin Wars. A fact for which Ettie was eternally grateful. Finally raising her hand she cleared her voice softly and tried to speak up (given their last Professor's penchant for mishearing her frequently). "Beings are currently defined as any creature that has sufficient intelligence to understand the laws of the magical community and to bear part of the responsibility in shaping those laws," her tone was soft still but carried well enough to the front of the room where Butler stood.

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Reply #9 on July 10, 2016, 03:06:30 PM

 "Well done...Miss Grimstone is it? Six points to Ravenclaw.

 There is of course a Centaur Liaison Office at the Ministry of Magic however no centaur has ever used it. That is not to say that the centaurs of this country do not take note of nor interact with wizarding affairs. The centaurs of the Forbidden Forest joined the Battle of Hogwarts where they fought against the Death Eaters. They do so rarely however preferring to keep to their own affairs. There are exceptions to every rule though.

 Can anyone tell me the name of the centaur who served as a Professor of Divination in this very school under Professor Dumbledore?"

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Reply #10 on July 17, 2016, 05:11:41 AM

Encouraged by the generous points offer and Ettie's successful reply, Ambrose tried to remember the name of the centaur. The second wizarding war was one of those topics told to Ambrose as a child by his family who had lived through it. Uncle Monty's stories were infinitely more dramatic and amusing than his father's who stuck to facts in the hope of it sinking into Ambrose's memory. However, a centaur wasn't one of the characters who had stuck in Ambrose's mind opposed to the evil fairytale like villain of Umbridge. Hmmm... hadn't he taught Divination? What had his name been... began with F.

"Firey?" Ambrose offered, incorrectly, blushing, "It began with F, but I don't know how to say it."

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Reply #11 on July 17, 2016, 08:26:11 AM

Fred knew this!

Eyes widening, he looked down at the textbook in front of him and at Ambrose's clue to the letter F, he flipped directly to the glossary.  He flipped every page until he got to the F list.  His eyes jumped from row to row, though it might have been better to be systematic, he knew he was on the right track... it was only a matter of time. Flint, No - keep scanning.  Fergus, No - try again.  Fire of London - Cool, but not what he was looking for.  And then, like someone had accio'd it off the page: Firenze! 

Raising his hand he didn't even really wait to be called on before he blurted out the answer, "Firenze!" Though, by the looks some of his classmates gave him as he did, his hand quickly dropped and Fred cleared his throat.  Had he been a little too overzealous?  Probably.  His cheeks grew hot and he felt the need to shrink as small as possible and duck in his seat, which he promptly did - eyes trained on his book.  Godric, he hoped no one was still staring.

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Reply #12 on November 16, 2016, 03:56:25 PM

 "Well done Mr Radley, 7 points to Hufflepuff. Professor Firenze has left Hogwarts now but the rank of Professor he held was the highest human office a centaur had ever held when he took it. Unfortunately his herd did not all take kindly to his acceptance of it and he was exiled after he took it. Does anyone know why his herd was so enraged?"

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Reply #13 on December 20, 2016, 12:38:04 PM

Ambrose gave Fred an approving double thumbs up for remembering the name. He was oblivious to the fact Radley had used his text book to narrow down the field. Ambrose hadn’t thought that far ahead himself. Professor Butler was once again very generous with the points, winning Ambrose’s further respect as a replacement for Professor Smythe.

… does anyone know why his herd was so enraged?
“Because he made the best dinners…” Ambrose suggested in a low voice, not being serious, nor expecting anyone but those closest to him to hear and smirk.

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Reply #14 on July 02, 2017, 08:16:30 AM

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Due to inactivity of professor and timeline moving on, housepoint totals:

Gryffindor Total Points: (+13)
  • PEPPER, Ambrose +4 - participation, +9 - from Prof. Butler for answer


Hufflepuff Total Points: (+9)
  • COLLINS, Ayla +1 - participation
  • RADLEY, Fred +1 - participation, +7 - from Prof. Butler for answer


Ravenclaw Total Points: (+8)
  • GRIMSTONE, Ettie +1 - participation, +6 from Prof. Butler for answer
  • MERRICK, Llywelyn +1 - participation


Slytherin Total Points: (+1)
  • DAVENPORT, Olivia +1 - participation
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