Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Tags: For the Greater Good Read 219 times / 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Grindelwald Era Memory Creation on March 30, 2013, 01:13:49 PM As introduced in this topic about the death of a wizard connected to Grindelwald, I wanted to open up this planning thread without taking up too much space in the other one.As Sparky's topic is about the immediate IC reactions of the event, this topic is for planning the past: what were events in the Wizarding World of the 1940s like? What events would be in a memory (or a series of memories) to use in History of Magic classes?This is the space to generate that content which later can inspire class activities. Skip to next post Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #1 on March 30, 2013, 02:57:00 PM Thanks for branching this off, Will!There's some stuff up about Grindelwald on the Harry Potter wiki. People seem to hypothesize that he was from Hungary (there's a hill in Budapest called Gellert Hill that is associated with witchcraft), and he seems to have risen to power in the 1930s/1940s. We know he kept prisoners at Nuremgard Prison, that he raised an army to terrorize Europe, and that he murdered lots of European wizards (including Viktor Krum's grandfather). He was defeated by Albus Dumbledore sometime in 1945, coinciding with the end of WW2.What Sunny and I have kind of briefly talked about (and jump in to correct me if I get something wrong, Sunny!): The wizard who died in the Three Broomsticks was originally a supporter of Grindelwald, but he later switched sides and became part of the resistance against Grindelwald. He could either be genuinely repentant, or he could try and alter his memory so that he doesn't come off looking so badly. But he could have theoretically have been there for any kind of historical events.I would also love to toss another NPC character in. Raizel's grandmother, Erzsébet Riesz, was a Beit Gaddol graduate from Hungary who ended up getting involved in the fight against Grindelwald in Europe. I think she might eventually be a possible source of information in the modern day, so it would be really cool to have her show up in the flashback memory.I sort of love the idea of starting near the end of the story -- maybe a major event towards the end of the war -- and having that be the first look at things, so that we can build back from there. But if someone has another cool idea in mind, I would say go for it! Skip to next post Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #2 on May 12, 2013, 04:42:32 PM Looking at Melanthe's family tree, her grandfather, Arturo, was born in 1934 (I suppose I could always shift this around to have made him older). But her great Grandfather, Angus, could even have been involved in the war in some way. Maybe he's a ghost or a portrait at Tyen, though if it's the latter, Melanthe would likely try to keep him out of the way of visitors.I'll keep thinking on it more though as I read through some of the other plotting pages. Skip to next post Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #3 on July 02, 2013, 11:30:02 PM I wanted to bump this up again because lately I have been thinking about possible pensieve threads for Vadim/Artur. But in relation to this part of the plotting, I was trying to figure out how they would work and give opportunity to thread with others. He would have graduated from Durmstrang around 1936 and expected to work within the ministry. His two older brothers (left unnamed) probably would have been high up in Grindelwald's "army of terrorists". They could have either been guards/in charge of Nuremgard or they could have done some of the murdering of European wizards.More than likely, Artur knew about all this, as well as his father's financial support of Grindelwald's endeavors but he would have worked to cover the tracks of the Grumman's involved and keep them squeaky clean. Perhaps he has a run-in with some of the older "good side" characters at some point and when they are following leads for uncovering some of the "bad side" stuff, he throws a wrench in their plans or something like that.One other thing... I know we make profiles for ghosts and portraits, but for some of these pensieves, maybe we can create some secondaries who are dead in the current time? It might help with some more perspectives. Skip to next post Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #4 on July 10, 2013, 02:33:17 PM Sorry, I've been on the road and AWOL as a result!I love that idea, Erika! I'd love to try writing up a character for the 1942 era. People could probably also play NPCs who are related to current characters on their main accounts.I should be around a little bit more now, so catch me on AIM or we could try brainstorming here, if anyone else is interested! Skip to next post Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #5 on July 11, 2013, 04:25:33 PM It is around this time that Casey's grandfather is just graduating from Slytherin. From things I've aid previously about the O'Dohertys is that they haven't joined the Death Eaters but it would be interesting to name drop/NPC puppet Ainbheartach to establish how the family wealth and contacts might have some basis with the Grindelwald/crowd of the day.(this is also Voldemort soon to graduate time, before he begins his travels and apprenticeships before finding some of the founder relics) Skip to next post Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #6 on July 11, 2013, 09:34:10 PM Ooo! I keep seeing this thread, keep meaning to post and then get distracted before doing so. I'd love to flesh Otto Waldgraf out some and include him in the scene. I've still left it vague/haven't decided what, exactly, his role in everything but it'd be fun to elaborate some. And, I positively love writing during that era anyway. Count me in! Skip to next post Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #7 on July 11, 2013, 11:03:56 PM I'll have to edit my post here tomorrow when I'm on a physical computer but I believe you may have a few Murrays and likewise a few members on the father's side.AND KIT (if you see this). Amelia, Ignan's mother, may have been a supporter against Grindelwald post the war / during (depending on her age).But as I said, lemme edit and we'll take note who in Ames' group took part come tomorrow!EDITED DISCUSSION:Gabrielle's FamiliesCount in the Murray clan for against Grindelwald as well as Gabie's great-grandmother, Crina Dragulia nee Vaduva. However, count Gabie's paternal grandmother's family, the Grimaldis, as well as few Dragulias, who would have sided with some of Grindelwald's elitist ideals.Addie and Rufus's FamiliesGustave and Adella Delacroix nee Vernier.So, Gustave would have been and possibly a few of the Vernier family members. Skip to next post
Grindelwald Era Memory Creation on March 30, 2013, 01:13:49 PM As introduced in this topic about the death of a wizard connected to Grindelwald, I wanted to open up this planning thread without taking up too much space in the other one.As Sparky's topic is about the immediate IC reactions of the event, this topic is for planning the past: what were events in the Wizarding World of the 1940s like? What events would be in a memory (or a series of memories) to use in History of Magic classes?This is the space to generate that content which later can inspire class activities. Skip to next post
Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #1 on March 30, 2013, 02:57:00 PM Thanks for branching this off, Will!There's some stuff up about Grindelwald on the Harry Potter wiki. People seem to hypothesize that he was from Hungary (there's a hill in Budapest called Gellert Hill that is associated with witchcraft), and he seems to have risen to power in the 1930s/1940s. We know he kept prisoners at Nuremgard Prison, that he raised an army to terrorize Europe, and that he murdered lots of European wizards (including Viktor Krum's grandfather). He was defeated by Albus Dumbledore sometime in 1945, coinciding with the end of WW2.What Sunny and I have kind of briefly talked about (and jump in to correct me if I get something wrong, Sunny!): The wizard who died in the Three Broomsticks was originally a supporter of Grindelwald, but he later switched sides and became part of the resistance against Grindelwald. He could either be genuinely repentant, or he could try and alter his memory so that he doesn't come off looking so badly. But he could have theoretically have been there for any kind of historical events.I would also love to toss another NPC character in. Raizel's grandmother, Erzsébet Riesz, was a Beit Gaddol graduate from Hungary who ended up getting involved in the fight against Grindelwald in Europe. I think she might eventually be a possible source of information in the modern day, so it would be really cool to have her show up in the flashback memory.I sort of love the idea of starting near the end of the story -- maybe a major event towards the end of the war -- and having that be the first look at things, so that we can build back from there. But if someone has another cool idea in mind, I would say go for it! Skip to next post
Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #2 on May 12, 2013, 04:42:32 PM Looking at Melanthe's family tree, her grandfather, Arturo, was born in 1934 (I suppose I could always shift this around to have made him older). But her great Grandfather, Angus, could even have been involved in the war in some way. Maybe he's a ghost or a portrait at Tyen, though if it's the latter, Melanthe would likely try to keep him out of the way of visitors.I'll keep thinking on it more though as I read through some of the other plotting pages. Skip to next post
Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #3 on July 02, 2013, 11:30:02 PM I wanted to bump this up again because lately I have been thinking about possible pensieve threads for Vadim/Artur. But in relation to this part of the plotting, I was trying to figure out how they would work and give opportunity to thread with others. He would have graduated from Durmstrang around 1936 and expected to work within the ministry. His two older brothers (left unnamed) probably would have been high up in Grindelwald's "army of terrorists". They could have either been guards/in charge of Nuremgard or they could have done some of the murdering of European wizards.More than likely, Artur knew about all this, as well as his father's financial support of Grindelwald's endeavors but he would have worked to cover the tracks of the Grumman's involved and keep them squeaky clean. Perhaps he has a run-in with some of the older "good side" characters at some point and when they are following leads for uncovering some of the "bad side" stuff, he throws a wrench in their plans or something like that.One other thing... I know we make profiles for ghosts and portraits, but for some of these pensieves, maybe we can create some secondaries who are dead in the current time? It might help with some more perspectives. Skip to next post
Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #4 on July 10, 2013, 02:33:17 PM Sorry, I've been on the road and AWOL as a result!I love that idea, Erika! I'd love to try writing up a character for the 1942 era. People could probably also play NPCs who are related to current characters on their main accounts.I should be around a little bit more now, so catch me on AIM or we could try brainstorming here, if anyone else is interested! Skip to next post
Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #5 on July 11, 2013, 04:25:33 PM It is around this time that Casey's grandfather is just graduating from Slytherin. From things I've aid previously about the O'Dohertys is that they haven't joined the Death Eaters but it would be interesting to name drop/NPC puppet Ainbheartach to establish how the family wealth and contacts might have some basis with the Grindelwald/crowd of the day.(this is also Voldemort soon to graduate time, before he begins his travels and apprenticeships before finding some of the founder relics) Skip to next post
Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #6 on July 11, 2013, 09:34:10 PM Ooo! I keep seeing this thread, keep meaning to post and then get distracted before doing so. I'd love to flesh Otto Waldgraf out some and include him in the scene. I've still left it vague/haven't decided what, exactly, his role in everything but it'd be fun to elaborate some. And, I positively love writing during that era anyway. Count me in! Skip to next post
Re: Grindelwald Era Memory Creation Reply #7 on July 11, 2013, 11:03:56 PM I'll have to edit my post here tomorrow when I'm on a physical computer but I believe you may have a few Murrays and likewise a few members on the father's side.AND KIT (if you see this). Amelia, Ignan's mother, may have been a supporter against Grindelwald post the war / during (depending on her age).But as I said, lemme edit and we'll take note who in Ames' group took part come tomorrow!EDITED DISCUSSION:Gabrielle's FamiliesCount in the Murray clan for against Grindelwald as well as Gabie's great-grandmother, Crina Dragulia nee Vaduva. However, count Gabie's paternal grandmother's family, the Grimaldis, as well as few Dragulias, who would have sided with some of Grindelwald's elitist ideals.Addie and Rufus's FamiliesGustave and Adella Delacroix nee Vernier.So, Gustave would have been and possibly a few of the Vernier family members. Skip to next post