[November 22] Bloody Hippogriff [Open]

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Reply #30 on September 24, 2012, 06:28:24 PM

Addison looked at Josh as he spoke about the Battle of Hogwarts. Indeed, it sounded like a rather chaotic time. Many adults flocked to the castle to protect it, and to naturally keep Voldemort from expanding any more than what he already did. If she remembered correctly from one of the books, she read that some students were allowed to fight. Perhaps Professor Longbottom, their newest Herbology Professor, could shine some light on that. After all, he was there for the battle. "I thought that the older students were allowed to fight, like seventh years and some sixth years along withe the staff and any other first responders to Hogwarts," she responded. History wasn't her best subject, so it was certainly possible that she had no idea what she was talking about.

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Reply #31 on September 25, 2012, 01:11:12 PM

"There were two parts to the Battle of Hogwarts. The first was by the staff and students of Hogwarts, which ended when Voldemort pulled the death eaters back because he wanted to demand Harry Potter's surrender. The second part was initially the students and staff against Voldemort, but a large mob of various Witches and Wizards turned up, actually managing to push the Death eaters back into the Great Hall. Voldemort was finally slain, and well, the Death Eaters had already been defeated. Then identification of the dead started. 50 dead in the battle, mostly students. There were almost a year's worth of students dead. Several wizards and witches were dead as well. It was at once a time of celebration and grief. For my family, it was a time of grief. Scireina Harcroft Riven, my aunt, was one of the dead. She... it's hard to describe what she meant to us." Josh said, wiping tears from his eyes. This was why he hated thinking about the Battle of Hogwarts. The reminder of the loss of his aunt still brought him to tears even today.

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Reply #32 on September 25, 2012, 03:48:40 PM

The Battle of Hogwarts was one of the most important events to occur in recent history. If it hadn't been for Harry Potter, kids like herself wouldn't have been permitted at Hogwarts most likely. After all, Voldemort hated muggleborns. Being a muggleborn, it seemed rather likely that she wouldn't have been allowed at Hogwarts. From the books that she read, Voldemort's control of the Ministry of Magic actually persecuted muggleborns as stealing another person's magic. So, it was certainly possible that she would've been persecuted and potentially killed or jailed by now. It was a scary thought, but it did remind her how great it was that Harry Potter was able to beat Voldemort.

"From what I read, the students that did fight still played a well enough major role in the conflict, despite the fact that they suffered many losses. After all, Harry was a student when he killed Voldemort. Undoubtedly, some of the duels that occurred must have happened with the students. I'm sorry to hear about your aunt though, Josh. It must have been a tough time for everyone, considering how wide Voldemort's power managed to reach," she responded.

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Reply #33 on September 25, 2012, 06:26:48 PM

"Actually, Harry wasn't a student at the time. He had quit the year before when Voldemort took over the ministry. Count yourself lucky you weren't around then, the Death Eaters killed every single muggleborn who would have joined that year. You see, since they had installed a Death Eater as Headmaster[1], they had access to the Book. It records details of every magical birth in the UK. Yours, mine, my parents'. As for the injuries, students actually took a disproportionate number of injuries. Then again, when there are acromantula crawling about..." Josh shuddered. "Don't worry about my Aunt, it was a while ago, it's just whenever i think of the battle... It's why I hate Remembering Day, it reopens the wound, especially since it's become more of a celebration of Voldemort's death." Josh explained, though he appreciated what Addie said,
 1. Yes, I know Snape was actually loyal to Dumbledore. However, i very much doubt he would have been able to avoid handing over the info on muggleborns.

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Reply #34 on September 25, 2012, 06:50:41 PM

"Voldemort's followers didn't just kill the students that would have came to Hogwarts that year, but they tried to kill off all muggleborns at the time that they knew about. Does the book record every magical birth, or does it start after the child has displayed their magical ability? I would think the later, considering the case of a squib in a magical family or anyone like me as a muggleborn. In both cases, magical ability wouldn't be known until it pops up several years after birth. There were acromantula crawling around during the battle?" she asked, not remembering that detail from the times that she read about the battle.

Addison nodded to what he said, and she didn't blame him. It wasn't easy to keep remembering a loss, especially each year. "Well, Remembering Day is not only to not only mourn the deaths, and even now celebrate Voldemort's death. It's supposed to mark a place in history where great evil was spreading everywhere, and finally stopped by Harry," she responded. 

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Reply #35 on September 26, 2012, 01:47:16 PM

"Every Magical birth is recorded without exception. It's not recorded upon their first accidental magic, it's at birth. So yes even muggleborns like you or my mum get recorded at birth. Squibs aren't recorded at all." Josh explained. "Magical ability can be detected from birth, it's just the spell is only known to a couple of members of the Department of Education. "As far as I know there were acromantula, and my father hasn't lied to me yet." Josh replied to Addie's question about the acromantula.

"Remembering Day might be, but to me, it's a reminder of my Aunt's murder. I just can't like a celebration on the same day, especially commemorating the same event." Josh said simply.

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Reply #36 on September 26, 2012, 07:03:16 PM

"Oh?" Addison responded, clearly surprised at that tidbit of information. She hadn't been entirely aware of the recording of magical births. Being a muggleborn, she had only assumed that her name was suddenly on their radar once her magical ability finally popped out of her. Apparently, that wasn't the case. She made a mental note to research the recording of magical births in the library at some later point. It sounded rather intriguing. "If these names are recorded at birth, then how come this information isn't available to the families to see who is magical and not? Perhaps it would lead to a better acceptance by those of us with muggle parents that were first surprised that their kids were going to this magical school?"

Addie's family didn't take it that badly that all three of their children were magical and thus sent to Hogwarts. Despite that fact, she couldn't help but wonder what her parents actually thought of the situation. It always seemed like a rather confusing one. She nodded to Josh's admittance of Remembering Day. Quite frankly, she couldn't compare to what he thought, considering the fact that she had no magical family to begin with.

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Reply #37 on September 27, 2012, 01:16:20 PM

"Several. First, until the Victorian era, squibs were generally murdered by their families. It was felt that if there was a later warning, the squib would have more chance of defending themselves. Second, fear. When we broke away, there were still Witch Burnings. Remember that accidental magic can be incredibly destructive. With muggle parents told about magic when their kid is about to go to Hogwarts, then they see the fact that the schooling prevents the magical outbursts first. If they had to wait several years until the outbursts would be brought under control... " Josh said. He felt the fear was fairly stupid himself, but it was one of the more logical parts of the Wizarding World.

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Reply #38 on September 28, 2012, 06:05:28 PM

Addison nodded to Josh's statements. Years ago, there wasn't much tolerance for squibs, since they didn't possess magical ability. As for muggleborns being told earlier, it was always a sticky issue to be different. "True, but older decrees that are still in effect now could very well be considered outdated with the improvements in the Wizarding community. As for muggles, I kind of doubt it too. With the secrecy law that we have, I guess that the Ministry would have to keep watch more to make sure that no one spreads around the existence of wizards and witches," she agreed with a nod. Not all muggles would be as accepting of magical qualities as her parents were.

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Reply #39 on September 29, 2012, 01:37:21 PM

"true, but remember reform often needs to be forced through, and in several cases, the sheer inertia of the opposition has worn down those looking for reform. Look at werewolf rights. The fight's been going on actively since Snark became Headmistress, with no end in sight. There have been attempts for far longer. For that matter, Muggleborn Rights. It wasn't until after the Second War that muggleborns truly got equal rights in the Wiarding World. The Ministry was in the Purebloods' pockets. Those that were considered to like muggles too much couldn't rise particularly high in the ministry. What did they consider liking Muggles too much? showing any interest in them at all. They talked about 'proper wizadring pride'" Josh said, scowling. the slow speed of reforms getting through had always disgusted him.

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Reply #40 on October 05, 2012, 06:49:34 PM

Addison looked at Josh as he started on werewolf rights. She didn't exactly have an opinion on werewolf's rights for many reasons, but most of all because she didn't know of anyone off hand that was a werewolf. Despite that fact, she knew that if muggleborns deserved rights, then werewolves probably deserved their own rights. Did that mean that everyone deserved equal rights? She had no idea. Politics had never been something that she was particularly interested in as a muggle, and she certainly wasn't interested in it as a witch now either.

"Even with the institution of rights, there will be people that want to get rid of those rights. I'm grateful for the muggleborn rights, but we need to be careful that purists don't have that same control over the Ministry again," she responded. Ok, she knew a little bit about magical politics, but still not too much.
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